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 Topic: truth about pitbulls (viewed 1328 times)
chris

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Joined: Mar 2004
Posted: 2/13/2005 11:20 AM

excellent (although graphic) video exposes the truth about a very misunderstood breed

http://www.deviantart.com/view/11454716/



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Image1

Posts: 15
Joined: Feb 2005
Posted: 2/21/2005 9:58 AM

That is a damn good vid about pits. Once I find the right people for my vid committee we're going to start making training vids for free download.

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ameribulldog200

Posts: 9
Joined: Mar 2005
Posted: 3/07/2005 12:09 AM

Hi Chris,

I saw that video about 2 months ago as I was looking at pit sites. It is a great video and this breed is very misunderstood. I have now owned 2. My female Gypsy I rescued from an awful place. Sadley, she passed away a year ago due to complications from her spay. In October I came across a breeder in MI that breeds for conformation and wieght pull. I went and checked them out and told them I was looking for a dog to do therapy work with. They introduced me to Apollo and he came home with me that day. These people were wonderful and checked me all out as they should. There dogs have wonderful temperments and are very smart. They have kept in touch with me and we exchange pictures all of the time. Living on a military base I have encounter parents who will not allow there children to come play with my son because I have a pit. This saddens me because Apollo is so sweet and is almost ready to take his Therapy dog test. He is a big baby. He wieghs 90 pounds at 10 months old and lives with a 9 pound chihuahua and plays with the 6 pound dachshund that lives next door yet parents hear pit and its all over. This breed deserves a chance. People need to research the breed, buy from a good breeder or rescue from a reputable rescue. My husband being a military policeman comes home daily with stories of the dogs he had to pick up. I think the one that stands out most to me is the small female pit who was cold and wet and could not climb into his car fast enough. If they were all vicious as the media trys to portray this would never have happened. As a trainer I know these dogs need lots of love and lots of training but they make wonderful family companions, therapy dogs, service dogs, and search and rescue dogs. I am tired of hearing about how mean they are. I never blame a dog for it actions. Its the people who own the dog that are at fault. Dogs only do what they are taught.



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scottmm

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Joined: Mar 2008
Posted: 3/23/2008 9:21 PM

I am a general surgery resident, and I get to see all of the mauled children that com ei n to the emergency department as a result of dog bites. Every single one of them so far has been the result of a pit bull. These are almost always the "family dog," who was "so sweet" and the family "couldn't believe this happened." I know some of you have had good experiences with this breed, but the bottom line is that the temperment of this dog is very strongly driven by dominance behavior, and if a child is seen as small and subhuman by the dog, it will attack the child just as it will attack a subordinant dog. This is very dangerous, as I have seen very well bread "sweet" pits attack my own dog. Owners of pits tend to disregard this behavior as harmless, and state that they are only aggressive towards other dogs, and that aggression towards humans was selected out of the breed a long time ago. Aggression, and the extent of the aggression, towards other dogs is not to be disregarded. Pit bull bites reach the emergency department because of their depth and the high tendency for these bites to invade major blood vessels. This is not dissimilar from the bite patterns seen with sharks. The common theme is that both of these animal are going for the kill when they decide to bite, which makes them incompatible, in my view, with human companionship.

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Nicksta038

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Joined: Mar 2008
Posted: 3/31/2008 3:30 AM

Wow Scott where is your emergency room?? Out of all the recorded dog attacks around my state pitbull terriers were rarely even mentioned.

I'v owned pits and they all have loved humans and never met a dog they didn't like. What I have seen by taking my dog on walks and to the parks are people with dogs that are poorly socialized and dis obediant. These poorly socialized dogs were the ones that cower, growl, and bite at other dogs. Not once even when provoked did my dog try to attack another dog.

I think any bite on human is STRICTLY the result of an irrisponsible handler, poor socialization and bad training. Theres no reason for a dog to see a small child as subordinant, if taught correctly.

I'v heard of horrible stories of dog attacks on humans (even resulting in death of small child in my old home town) not involving pitbulls and the thought of banning the bread was not even mentioned on the news or in the paper, but if a pitbull would even nip some one as a result of them yelping and running around, that dog would be put to death and there would be all kinds of people demanding they ban that breed. It's pure prejudice...

So unless there is some guy raising and abusing pitbulls resulting in human aggression all over your state, i highly doubt what you say is true...

 



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sleepytech

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Joined: Mar 2008
Posted: 3/31/2008 3:19 PM

According to one of the last polls taken in america, the breed reported to have bitten the most people is the labrador retriever believe it or not. These cases are never on the news or in the papers because the severity is not near as bad as an attack from a pitbull. I am a veterinary technician and have been in the field a long long time. I have been bitten more times than I like to admit, but never once from a pitbull. Any dog who is not properly socialized with people of all ages, and other animals can have aggressive tendencies. That is not saying that it is an aggressive dog, but it is a DOG. Remember dogs are animals, they cannot reason, they need to be taught how to behave. And on a final note, the reason that bites from Pitbulls are more serious is not because the dog is trying to kill you. Pits get lock jaw, just like a horse. When they put something, ANYTHING in their mouth, their jaws must close completely around the object before they can reopen them on their own. This is not their fault, it is how GOD made them. Please stop blaming the pitbulls. Start blaming the incompetent owners.

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Nicksta038

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Posted: 3/31/2008 10:34 PM

The lock jaw is just a mythe, you can look it up online or in any pitbull hand book. But it is still hardly EVER the dogs fault. Im not sure why a pitbull attack can be much more devastating than other dogs.. they aren't trying to kill you, they dont have that strong of a bite PSI, the only thing I can think of when some thing like a bite on human occurs is that the human will naturally pull away and because a pitbull has such a driven personality they may keep biting and not want to give up in an attempt to win. Im sure if the person gave a high pitched squell, the dog would stop because most pitbull bites are game driven in which the dog is just playing. If their attack was aggression driven im sure the damage would be alot more devastating.

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