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Posted: 9/27/2004 10:52 PM
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Hi Mickey,
Rescue gets a lot of recognition as it well should. You want to make that message go further? Teach people to Learn BEFORE They Buy. Take your education to the local papers and the streets, to the vets and feedstores. Arm people with the information they need to recognize a backyard breeder when they meet/see one. Teach people responsible breeders support rescue on many levels. Teach folks that truly reputable breeders are part of the Rescue solution, not the problem.
Making the statement that no one should buy a dog while shelter dogs die is going to be received more as being preached to. The best route is to put out unbiased information and let the reader decide - doing so doesn't insult their intelligence.
And just in case you're inclined to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about, I've got over 17 years of Rescue under my belt. They don't come much more proactive than me. I don't post about things unless I've got the experience behind me to back it up.
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Posted: 9/28/2004 11:09 AM
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Now why would I be inclined to tell you (or anyone for that matter) that they don't know what they are talking about.
I am not preaching to anyone, and I do arm people with that information on a daily basis. Newspapers, magazines, just talking to people. etc. I'm not just sitting on my ass in front of my computer...
I value and respect everyone's opinion. I am not a militant person, who will yell and scream and pitch a fit if you insist you want that perfect purebred puppy. Not everyone will rescue. That is unfortunate, but a fact.
I see both sides, not just mine.
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Posted: 9/28/2004 3:54 PM
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Just a guess, but maybe you do have a militant attitude when you state that no one should buy a dog when others are dying in shelters?
That's a heavily biased opinion. It's not a message I, as a consumer, a breeder or a rescuer, can relate to.
Just my take on things.
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Posted: 9/28/2004 4:14 PM
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ahhhh
thats so cute!
our first forum argument....Jean and I are so proud...
this is a topic that is difficult to discuss because people have very strong beliefs either way and nobody likes to have their beliefs questioned...
just keep this in mind...
everyone is here cuz they love dogs so we all have that common ground.
maybe our energies are better spent fighting out against people that abuse animals instead of fighting each other...
thats just my 2 cents... stop looking at me as if you expected a dime...
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Posted: 9/29/2004 9:17 PM
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"Why should you buy a puppy from a breeder? I have 3 Dobermans available for adoption! 2 of them are 9 months old, and the other one is 10 or 11 months old.
There is NEVER a reason to breed or buy while shelter animals die."
Obviously you didn't read through the entire Buyer's Guide (and it seems you have a chip on your shoulder about anyone buying a dog), but had you read through the entire guide you would have seen that we address an entire section to adoption as an option - and that a Doberman may not be the right choice also. I wholeheartly support rescue/adoption. I have had a senior rescue dobe (got her when she was 9 years old) and I have a 3 year old nuetered male that I got from a responsible and ethical breeder. There will always be people who purchase a dog before considering adoption, so isn't it better to educate those people so that they make an informed and RESPONSIBLE purchase? I think so! Also, are you aware that MANY responsible and ethical Doberman breeders are also active and hands on with Doberman rescue?
You mention the dogs you have available for adoption, so I'm curious what rescue group are you affilated with? Where are you located?
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*The Doberman Pinscher Purchasing Guideline*
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http://www.doberescue.com/shop.html
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Posted: 9/29/2004 9:28 PM
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"Please, don't breed or buy while shelter animals die."
And one of the cold hard facts of rescue is that animals will always die.
Lisa
http://www.doberescue.com
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*The Doberman Pinscher Purchasing Guideline*
http://frontpage.execulink.com/korevaar/buyingguide.htm
http://www.doberescue.com/shop.html
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Posted: 4/05/2005 11:11 PM
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I think some BALANCE is in order here .... Just my opinion of course..
The concept of the critical push to adopt and the chastising of breeders leaves a bad taste in my mouth for the type of folks that make such claims. First as a breeder and having participated in starting several non for profit rescue groups and spending lots of time with our own rescue efforts I would like to make a statement on this issue..
There are many unethical rescue groups/people who lack a great deal of knowledge in the many realms of the dog world and have mindsets that do both the K9s and the people whom receive these rescue dogs a great injustice. It is a fact that many dogs do not make good pets and that certain people do not make for good owners. With that said it is also a fact that there are many unethical and uneducated breeders who should not only breed and own dogs as well….. In addition there are many unethical Trainers and owners of dogs in general
A reputable breeder such as myself and others breed to better the development of the species and particular breed by attempting to insure that a particular breed standard is maintained ,health clearances and temperament issues are addressed, pups are properly socialized, and that the pups/dogs go to homes that have been screened as best as possible. This is the basic foundation for good stewardship and guardians of the species.
My point here is that it leaves a bad taste in my mouth when I hear/read statements that criticize breeders and lump them into one category and then claim that the answer to the dilemma is not to breed… I ask that you think about how foolish,one sided, and uneducated you sound when you take this stand….
Robert Rogers www.darnfar.com
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